Today I start emailing transcripts of the February 4 daylong meeting of the TE/GE area councils. The first panel is “Update from the IRS,” starring Holly Paz. For those of you who went to the January 21 meeting of the EO Committee of the ABA Tax Section, there is some overlap, since both Holly and Lois Lerner discussed EO staffing and the EO workplan, among other topics. I’ve inserted head notes in the transcript so if you’ve heard enough about staffing or the workplan, you can skip to the next topic.
There is one major difference between the meetings. About halfway through her presentation, Holly stopped and said: “I want to make sure to leave some time for questions so I’ll turn it over to you.” With that, attendees spent the next half hour asking questions. In comparison, the ABA panel at which Lois spoke had three to four minutes for questions.
Having commented on this before, I decided to do some statistical analysis of the January EO Committee meeting. Of the six panels, spanning 345 minutes — that’s almost six hours — there was a grand total of 10 to 15 minutes for questions. The average for each panel, all but one of 60 minutes duration, was about two minutes for questions. So at the ABA EO Committee meeting, attendees listened for 330 minutes and asked questions for about 15 minutes.
Why is that? Is the committee leadership afraid that attendees are so uninformed or uninterested that they won’t ask questions if given more than a few minutes? Or are attendees there just for the sun and fun and who cares what anyone is saying? Or is the constant clock-watching, the terrible danger that a panel will go over its allotted time, the problem?
I was shocked several years ago when I was at another ABA committee meeting and the committee chair let the first panel, which featured IRS speakers, run on and on, as people kept asking questions. As the time for the meeting was coming to an end, the chair acknowledged that there was no time for the last panel and they would get to it the next time. As far as I could tell, no one was upset. Apparently, being on the last panel meant you might get booted to the next meeting. The EO Committee may not want to go this far, but a little flexibility might not be the end of the world.
Update from the IRS
What follows are the February 4 remarks of Holly Paz, Acting Director of EO Rulings & Agreements, IRS, as delivered at the TE/GE Councils’ annual meeting. The moderators of the panel are Christopher Ballard of Honigman Miller Schwartz and Cohn LLP, Ann Arbor, Michigan, and Mike Rachael of Ernst & Young, Atlanta.